[yamapikko]

Oooh...apples and oranges! I must say I like them both. Now, which one shall we have tonight? (oh! the emoticons are working for me again! yay! )

[Nez]

This all comes back to what we mean by "better". If we're talking about instantaneous, fleeting nuggets of pleasure (and that was my intention when I started this topic), there are arguably few things more pleasurable than an orgasm. However, now that we've had 60 replies in this thread, I propose that we form a more complex definition of "better".

In reply to Beebs, sex can become a more complex experience if two people are willing to be creative. The Karma Sutra comes to mind. Oh, and the first time that a person has sex is a complex experience due to the novelty. My argument is not that orgasms lack complexity but the situations in which they occur are predictable. And if we examine why we want to experience orgasm in the first place from a cognitive perspective, as opposed to a biological one, it's because - and apologies for sounding like a broken record - they're very predictable and comforting like watching TV or spending time with friends and having a casual chat.

These predictable activities aren't bad things per se. I'm saying that if we equate complexity and all the good things that come with it as the meaning of "better" then activities such as astronomy are better than an orgasm.

TL;DR Humans enjoy challenges. Challenges require complexity. Challenges make us happy.

[hansamu]

Nez, on 20 November 2009 - 06:25 PM, said:

This all comes back to what we mean by "better". If we're talking about instantaneous, fleeting nuggets of pleasure (and that was my intention when I started this topic), there are arguably few things more pleasurable than an orgasm. However, now that we've had 60 replies in this thread, I propose that we form a more complex definition of "better".

In reply to Beebs, sex can become a more complex experience if two people are willing to be creative. The Karma Sutra comes to mind. Oh, and the first time that a person has sex is a complex experience due to the novelty. My argument is not that orgasms lack complexity but the situations in which they occur are predictable. And if we examine why we want to experience orgasm in the first place from a cognitive perspective, as opposed to a biological one, it's because - and apologies for sounding like a broken record - they're very predictable and comforting like watching TV or spending time with friends and having a casual chat.

These predictable activities aren't bad things per se. I'm saying that if we equate complexity and all the good things that come with it as the meaning of "better" then activities such as astronomy are better than an orgasm.

TL;DR Humans enjoy challenges. Challenges require complexity. Challenges make us happy.

For someone espousing the superiority of intellectual pursuits, you mispelled Kama Sutra. Karma has an entirely different meaning than kama. (One of my favorite reads while in Florida was, "The Kama Sutra of Vatsyayana--{The Translation by Sir Richard Burton}".) Only parts are devoted to positions though(which runs contrary to what popular culture would have you believe ... ) For those who haven't read it, it's as though Siddhartha had tea with Machiavelli and then stumbling upon a different sort of enlightenment ,i suppose, wrote a guide {discourse really} for the inquiring male student. It's a good insight into Indian culture at the time, and you might learn a thing or two about the social classes and dynamic among men and women, but most *translations* you'll find at the bookstore omit diagrams of say--reverse cowgirl wih Sanskrit lettering beneath. I found this out, after by Border's purchase unfortunately..hahah

[Erin]

I think there are many other things that can make you feel as good or better than an orgasm but it is definitively unique, and it does stimulate the same part of the brain as food, gambling and drugs/alcohol.

[hapadeity]

For any guy that wants to quit like me, picturing women on the toilet and picturing them on their menstrual cycle helps fight the urge of masturbation and sex.
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I been clean for 2 weeks now, and i have so much energy.

[maeku 476]

easy.... mutliple orgasms...

[hapacheese]

maeku 476, on 09 December 2009 - 12:10 AM, said:

easy.... mutliple orgasms...

Winner. Thread over. Next topic please

[maeku 476]

.........

[Yuriko]

Mr X, on 27 April 2009 - 11:49 AM, said:

I have not had intercourse or masturbated ever in my entire life, thus no orgasm. And I have no interest in it. My mind will always be focused on better things such as gardening, reading books, studying, cooking, sports and exercising. Sex is the very last thing on my focused, disciplined, healthy mind. I wouldn't doubt myself either. I really believe that if, say Jennifer Aniston offered me sex, I would turn her down. That's how strong I truly am.

And just for your information, men, frequent orgasms creates massive amounts of 'Dihydrotestosterone', aka DHT, in your hair follicles. DHT is the primary contributing factor in male pattern baldness. So beware.

Why would you care if you are going bold, if you aren't the least interested in attracting the opposite sex? You don't need hair for all these other mind stimulating things.

[beebs]

Yuriko, on 11 December 2009 - 12:19 PM, said:

Why would you care if you are going bold, if you aren't the least interested in attracting the opposite sex? You don't need hair for all these other mind stimulating things.

psssst. yuriko. don't talk to him he's crazy.

[maeku 476]

beebsy.. that was probably the UNDERSTIMATION of the year!!

[sasa]

I think YOU'RE both crazy.
Wasn't he that very handsome moteru man who drove us all crazy with lust?
Not to mention selflessly dispensed advice to lesser mortals on subjects great and small.

[q-she]

Sauna. really. this is the shit. it takes also about 20 minutes, but sometimes i think its better. or maybe 2gether its better. never tried.

[maeku 476]

sasa, on 11 December 2009 - 11:34 AM, said:

I think YOU'RE both crazy.
Wasn't he that very handsome moteru man who drove us all crazy with lust?
Not to mention selflessly dispensed advice to lesser mortals on subjects great and small.

well yes.. u r right.. but since he didnt pay any attention to me whatsoever i was hurt and bitter... so I prefer to call him names...

[73bonneville]

hapadeity, on 07 December 2009 - 03:34 AM, said:

For any guy that wants to quit like me, picturing women on the toilet and picturing them on their menstrual cycle helps fight the urge of masturbation and sex.
.

I been clean for 2 weeks now, and i have so much energy.

What's wrong with women on the toilet or menstruating??? You some kinda freak?!?! Red wings forever! Must be my old greasy biker trash coming thru again....and Cheesey, Maeku pretty much sed it all, ne.

[beebs]

sasa, on 11 December 2009 - 07:34 PM, said:

I think YOU'RE both crazy.
Wasn't he that very handsome moteru man who drove us all crazy with lust?
Not to mention selflessly dispensed advice to lesser mortals on subjects great and small.

yeah, and i...uh...was getting mad at yuriko for moving in on my turf.

[Yuriko]

lol getting the picture! I heart u all!

[doorknobdeity]

E--ekusu-senpai~